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Title: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: [Rstar]CBFASI on January 08, 2010, 12:57:30 pm
FRISK

Disabled due to repeated misuse/abuse, please go back to old RP methods..

NAME COLOURS

ALL cops will now have the SAME COLOUR, the CADET colour, which happens to be the easiest to view against a variety of backgrounds, this all cops INCLUDES FREECOPS ...
You want to know someones rank /rank id if your on duty, if not on duty then TOUGH.....

TREAT all cops with same respect.......

SWAT will ONLY get DARK BLUE when wearing SWAT uniform...

FBI will retain DARK BLUE, but this is now for ALL FBI ranks..

There is NO chance of this changing, if you do not like it LEAVE...
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: GiacJr on January 08, 2010, 13:02:52 pm
So now it's legal to grow drugs?!?!?!
YAY!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Jonny O'Sullivan on January 08, 2010, 13:04:13 pm
Completely agree with these changes, hopefully there will no longer be things such as "Oh know in comes the freecop"

Edit: Giac, CBFasi never said that... You will just have to RP frisking someone instead of using commands.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: jemerson on January 08, 2010, 13:05:27 pm
You know how I feel Chief, agreed.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: TeaM_Francis on January 08, 2010, 13:07:41 pm
Agree, Many Officers abuse /frisk.


Thanks CBF
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Fabio on January 08, 2010, 13:10:55 pm
Hopefully people won't stereotype freecops now and treat them with some respect. ;)
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Atunzuman on January 08, 2010, 13:17:38 pm
Whart about people who will always do this:
COP; "Do you have anything that my prick or poke me?"
GuyAtWeedFields; "Nope"
*Cop begins searching suspect.
COP; /em Finds something.
GuyAtWeedFields; /em Nope.
COP; Ok, your all clear, don't hang around these fields, understand?"
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: [Rstar]CBFASI on January 08, 2010, 13:28:48 pm
This is LIVE now
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: [R*]Pancher on January 08, 2010, 13:37:31 pm
SWAT = LIghtblue
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: AndrewR on January 08, 2010, 13:43:21 pm
Now this sucks, I already got treated like a bad girl by a freecop cuz of the color....
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Henry_Blaze on January 08, 2010, 13:48:08 pm
I agree with both but, i think we should keep the frisk, but like you can use it after every 5 minutes.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: jemerson on January 08, 2010, 13:56:28 pm
Now this sucks, I already got treated like a bad girl by a freecop cuz of the color....
Give it a week this will change.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Oliver Daniels on January 08, 2010, 13:56:52 pm
SWAT = LIghtblue

Yes, SWAT is the same lighblue color at the moment.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Pepper on January 08, 2010, 14:05:58 pm
Cool! I like the changes.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Sarah Pallory 'Jones' on January 08, 2010, 14:13:43 pm
Love the changes, good job!
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Hidduh on January 08, 2010, 14:28:34 pm
Hmm.. I'll hope this works.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Jcstodds on January 08, 2010, 14:53:26 pm
  Lovely jubbly.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Mahome on January 08, 2010, 14:54:22 pm
I agree about the colour changes. But with the Frisk rp.. Don't know how this will work out. Most of the time when i search a person i try to roleplay at first. The person goes /em HAs nothing on him. Then i search him with command and he has atleast 50 grams...
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Jcstodds on January 08, 2010, 14:56:17 pm
I agree about the colour changes. But with the Frisk rp.. Don't know how this will work out. Most of the time when i search a person i try to roleplay at first. The person goes /em HAs nothing on him. Then i search him with command and he has atleast 50 grams...
  Surely the most important thing is the RP though? :)
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: ElMartu on January 08, 2010, 15:06:49 pm
I wanted the color changes for some months now. Happy it finally happened :)
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Atunzuman on January 08, 2010, 15:43:38 pm
I tried RP with someone 2 weeks ago, he said he was clean no need for frisk. I then /frisk and found 1152g of heroin...... So basically, its no longer the officers  decision if they find drugs, and drug trading / growing / selling will rise substantially....
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Mahome on January 08, 2010, 15:48:55 pm
Yeah doesn't matter i guess... Civilians will just have to be honest  then :D
Everybody want to earn some money and buy whatever they want  :gandalf:
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Alsatian on January 08, 2010, 16:11:09 pm
Great to see this finally in action!

Hopefully now all this hate towards freecops will stop.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: AndrewR on January 08, 2010, 16:18:32 pm
People who have struggled to become an officer+ aren't given any advantages over cadets/freecops now....
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Henry_Blaze on January 08, 2010, 16:19:09 pm
I think this increased work of ARPD. Today i saw after every suspect atleast 3 police cars. :)
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Shawn Edwards on January 08, 2010, 16:33:40 pm
People who have struggled to become an officer+ aren't given any advantages over cadets/freecops now....


Thats the problem. You shouldn't have any advantages over the cadets and freecops. Everyone should be treated the same no matter what rank you are. Learn to respect the cadets and freecops, because no one is better then anyone.

I must admit that I am a little disappointed in this, but its only in effect to better the SAPD, and it has good intentions. So I can't be too mad  ;)
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: James Bowling on January 08, 2010, 16:47:01 pm
This will help everyone alot to help to retain respect but... i would think it better if their was some way created so an officer +  can only /frisk once cause most people wait and re /frisk but its not my decision at all. thanks for the changes.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Jcstodds on January 08, 2010, 17:12:33 pm
  I think the problem with /frisk, which enforces the justice in removing it, is that you guys don't understand it properly. /frisk is one of those commands that force RP and replace RP only. There is no RP needed by cops or criminals because /frisk determines their fate. So what if we get more people "lying" about drugs, who cares? Maybe they can RP they hid it somewhere other than their house once again. Maybe you will come across some guys that do not RP for inventory - but for the fun of it. /frisk gave a lot of unnecessary boundaries. A lot of you may not understand most of these boundaries, because all you ever knew was how to RP /frisk. So here we are; to win drugs you must RP and even if you don't win any, you will get a good reputation and some RP experience at least :)


  Oh, and I will let you on a little secret. Humiliation is the way to get drugs. Soon after you threaten to search 'inside' them, they will give up. I'm still waiting for a time when I have to take a suspect in the middle of Pershing square, advertise a public cavity search, make a party in his demise and perform in front of a crowd.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Luke Hayes on January 08, 2010, 17:33:54 pm
  I think the problem with /frisk, which enforces the justice in removing it, is that you guys don't understand it properly. /frisk is one of those commands that force RP and replace RP only. There is no RP needed by cops or criminals because /frisk determines their fate. So what if we get more people "lying" about drugs, who cares? Maybe they can RP they hid it somewhere other than their house once again. Maybe you will come across some guys that do not RP for inventory - but for the fun of it. /frisk gave a lot of unnecessary boundaries. A lot of you may not understand most of these boundaries, because all you ever knew was how to RP /frisk. So here we are; to win drugs you must RP and even if you don't win any, you will get a good reputation and some RP experience at least :)


  Oh, and I will let you on a little secret. Humiliation is the way to get drugs. Soon after you threaten to search 'inside' them, they will give up. I'm still waiting for a time when I have to take a suspect in the middle of Pershing square, advertise a public cavity search, make a party in his demise and perform in front of a crowd.

Agree with you Jcs.....
I really support this idea as It will bring equivalence into SAPD.....
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Oliver Daniels on January 08, 2010, 18:22:54 pm
Thats the problem. You shouldn't have any advantages over the cadets and freecops. Everyone should be treated the same no matter what rank you are. Learn to respect the cadets and freecops, because no one is better then anyone.

How about we remove ALL ranks then?

The 'everyone is the same, no one is better' is absolute BULLSHIT. If everyone was the same then there would be no ranks. People have WORKED for their ranks and that makes them better than some! Are you saying that we should treat an abusive officer and a rigorous captain with the same respect? Bullshit.

These changes will bring f**kall to the SAPD, all it did was change the color and remove a command. Everyone being light blue will just bring a lot of confusion to Argonath.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: AndrewR on January 08, 2010, 18:33:32 pm
I agree...and now i feel and I'm also treated like a bad girl officer, happened twice today
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Monte Montague on January 08, 2010, 20:33:46 pm
This is a great decision :D.

Although i miss the light blue name -.- , so much.. :( But don't think I'm leaving... being in Argonathrpg will be the closest ever.

I always have wanted this , for reasons of utter most important - respect and clamp down on freecopism :> , when i was freecop FBI Agent I was not aware of the disrespect freecops get, i had forgotton about it when i became a cadet.
I then left and I noticed the harsh truth... , sad.
 :gandalf:
I agree about the colour changes. But with the Frisk rp.. Don't know how this will work out. Most of the time when i search a person i try to roleplay at first. The person goes /em HAs nothing on him. Then i search him with command and he has atleast 50 grams...

When i was FBI cadet I rp frisked and got a lot of drugs
Also DODO - I get that a lot  :lol: , because I am top kop :cop:


EDIT:

WTH happened to the combine posts function?


Thats the problem. You shouldn't have any advantages over the cadets and freecops. Everyone should be treated the same no matter what rank you are. Learn to respect the cadets and freecops, because no one is better then anyone.

How about we remove ALL ranks then?

The 'everyone is the same, no one is better' is absolute BULLSHIT. If everyone was the same then there would be no ranks. People have WORKED for their ranks and that makes them better than some! Are you saying that we should treat an abusive officer and a rigorous captain with the same respect? Bullshit.

These changes will bring f**kall to the SAPD, all it did was change the color and remove a command. Everyone being light blue will just bring a lot of confusion to Argonath.

With all respects, thats just a load of ...

If you don't like it, leave.

Although some or rather 1 captain , i wont say who... has worked for his rank, he still treated a lot of freecops like crap , he held a briefing in LSPD and said we could all come, the truth was, he simply told us things we already knew and treated us like crap. He also dissed freecops and CADETS << , he shows little respect and disregard for anything.

Srsly.

Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Oliver Daniels on January 08, 2010, 20:55:25 pm
I always have wanted this , for reasons of utter most important - respect and clamp down on freecopism :> , when i was freecop FBI Agent I was not aware of the disrespect freecops get, i had forgotton about it when i became a cadet.
I then left and I noticed the harsh truth... , sad.
 :gandalf:

YOU GET DISRESPECTED BECAUSE YOU'RE CONSTANTLY ABUSING PEOPLE, NOT BECAUSE YOU'RE A f**kING FREECOP! GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Mac_Cabrazi on January 08, 2010, 21:01:46 pm
exactly and plus i dont really care about these color changes but what i dont understand is that all this racism towards freecops and cadets is thought to be the color of their name?   Its just a color lol not a big deal i never knew people judged other people on Argonath by the color of their name
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: SafetyMoose on January 08, 2010, 21:02:56 pm
i understand the color thing, but removing frisk is stupid, was the only reason i wanted to get officer rank XD, after this and the Sub Division closures, ARPD is really going down the shitter in my opinion.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: AndrewR on January 08, 2010, 21:03:29 pm
i understand the color thing, but removing frisk is stupid, was the only reason i wanted to get officer rank XD, after this and the Sub Division closures, ARPD is really going down the shitter in my opinion.

+1
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Mac_Cabrazi on January 08, 2010, 21:05:27 pm
yea about /frisk now we dont have the actual command i bet you theres going to be a huge decrease in confiscating drugs,  Criminals are not going to hand over their drugs when they realize cops dont have a script to find them anymore, they do this all the time including with freecops and cadets when /frisk was used for officers+ that when a freecop or cadet frisked them they would go /em you found nothing when they actualyl have shitload of drugs
drugs=money most criminals are not gonna hand over free money to cops
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Monte Montague on January 08, 2010, 21:08:34 pm
*Ignores Ollies crap*

I got weed yesterday - 16 from rp frisk...
How can you say something without even trying?

What ARPD needs is more teamwork and respect, organization and structure, the leaders of the ARPD are starting to show they mean business, how could you be against them?...

Be old school , like me , or rather... new school to most of you :D
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Kenny on January 08, 2010, 21:13:46 pm
Whart about people who will always do this:
COP; "Do you have anything that my prick or poke me?"
GuyAtWeedFields; "Nope"
*Cop begins searching suspect.
COP; /em Finds something.
GuyAtWeedFields; /em Nope.
COP; Ok, your all clear, don't hang around these fields, understand?"

Excatly my thought
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Rabbit on January 08, 2010, 21:14:22 pm
What ARPD needs is more teamwork and respect, organization and structure, the leaders of the ARPD are starting to show they mean business, how could you be against them?...

I am not trying to question my superiors, and I hope that this topic is a free-say topic; but I think they are making rash decisions. Police don't have much to do in the first place. We do not get paid to do this job. They are taking away everything that was good and turning it into an organization I am having second thoughts on being a part of.

I mean come the f**k on, seriously.. The ARPD has more rules and guidelines than Mafia / Crime / DM families have to follow, and we are the ones that make the server better and keep the server in order.

P.S. How are Civilians going to differentiate who is ARPD and who is not ARPD? Don't you think "Report to Leaders" will be full of B.S. and non-sense now?
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: ElMartu on January 08, 2010, 21:18:02 pm
People who have struggled to become an officer+ aren't given any advantages over cadets/freecops now....


Actually you had it quite easy... Ask Salmonella, he had to wait like 9 months to become officer

And you do have advantages, more ammo, better paid when you get somebody jailed...
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: SafetyMoose on January 08, 2010, 21:26:28 pm
BS
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Kenny on January 08, 2010, 21:35:40 pm

P.S. How are Civilians going to differentiate who is ARPD and who is not ARPD? Don't you think "Report to Leaders" will be full of B.S. and non-sense now?

Well i guess they will have to deal with the reports.
I can see in couple of months /cuff will be gone and we will have to RP /cuff.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Atunzuman on January 08, 2010, 21:39:04 pm
I dont get it, using frisk gave you a 50/100 chance of finding drugs, and now....o never mind, I don't have time for this.

Edit: I might as well were the security guard skin, i will.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Mac_Cabrazi on January 08, 2010, 21:41:01 pm
People who have struggled to become an officer+ aren't given any advantages over cadets/freecops now....


Actually you had it quite easy... Ask Salmonella, he had to wait like 9 months to become officer

And you do have advantages, more ammo, better paid when you get somebody jailed...

really? that means i can relate to sal it took me 8 months to become officer
@Curse he gave you like 11gs right?  What makes you think thats all he gave you and I have tried before many times when i was cadet/freecop i frisked so many people that i KNEW had drugs because i caught them in the verge of selling them and they wouldn't give curse either you just got lucky or you were played 11g of drugs is nothing
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: James Bowling on January 08, 2010, 22:00:24 pm
Ok look we all Know that the criminals will lie and we will never get any narcotics and crime rate will spike.............. But we can not do anything about it ok if this ever comes back i hope we could install new rules such as.

1  Only 1 frisk is Premitted if you re frisk it is abusing command
2  Civilians May report for abuse of command ( refrisking )
3  Seeing the cops Irl Never find Residue that will not be a time premitted
4  If abuse is found of the command you will face ARPD/ Admin action


Now i don't want to say that the commands Must come back but it would be nice

Now for the Disrespect towards Freecops / Cadets

1  These are people to this is a game so dont get all high and mighty
2 Personally i think that anyone found disrespecting other ranks should be demoted.  
3  If you are an officer and you can not respect other ranks you have not matured past them
Just because someone is not as experienced as you does not mean you have the right
4  if a Freecop / Cadet feels that he has been  abuse he is to report it
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: RoryAnstruther on January 08, 2010, 22:15:25 pm
I couldn't agree more with the name colors, the frisk thing... There's a reason for everything. CBF knows what he's doing. I'm sure there will be something to counter it soon. Just remember guys, he's not a tyrant, but he is the Chief, and a developer.. I'm sure something else will take the place of frisk. These things aren't done to piss us off.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Cane on January 08, 2010, 22:24:56 pm
Unlike most of the people in this topic, I personally am highly against the color change. We, as official ARPD officers, earned our ranks by gaining experience and working hard. The color represents our badge, our 'trophy', our accomplishment. Sure, players disrespect 'freecops', but are they disrespected because of their 'name color'? No. For some, this might be true. However, if you could prove yourself to be professional, this wouldn't be a problem. Our badges, or colors, should not be taken away from us because people are simply "tired of being judged". This is the way of life; nothing is fair, and not everything should be fair. We earned our badges with pure experience; if we can do it, so can they. I'm sure most of us have been disrespected as a 'freecop' atleast once before joining the force; look at where we're standing now! Also, if the concept of this act was to say "everyone is fair; no one is higher than anyone else", why is it that the F.B.I. members keep THEIR colors? Why are they so 'special'? I remember that I was told, numerously, that the F.B.I. had no power over the S.A.P.D. I was told that we were equal. If this is true, why aren't they treated the same? In my opinion, this is complete nonsense.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: [Rstar]Vince on January 08, 2010, 22:27:08 pm
Interesting changes as stated in another topic, the name color thing, again, I am still a bit iffy on and of course do not support it for FBI to have it (as they are constantly always on duty).

Other than that it's not that big of a deal. Just go back to suspecting people for being on weed fields again since there is no more frisk. :evil:
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: SafetyMoose on January 08, 2010, 22:42:17 pm
I couldn't agree more with the name colors, the frisk thing... There's a reason for everything. CBF knows what he's doing. I'm sure there will be something to counter it soon. Just remember guys, he's not a tyrant, but he is the Chief, and a developer.. I'm sure something else will take the place of frisk. These things aren't done to piss us off.

Does he really know what hes doing? i have doubts in my mind.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: [Rstar]CBFASI on January 08, 2010, 23:04:07 pm
I would be careful what you say...
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Boozman on January 08, 2010, 23:13:47 pm
I was wondering when the changers were going to be made.
I have been hearing about them for some time now.

And Alex, CBF does know what he is doing.
I would take his advice and watch what you say...
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Cane on January 08, 2010, 23:22:36 pm
Also, if the concept of this act was to say "everyone is fair; no one is higher than anyone else", why is it that the F.B.I. members keep THEIR colors? Why are they so 'special'? I remember that I was told, numerously, that the F.B.I. had no power over the S.A.P.D. I was told that we were equal. If this is true, why aren't they treated the same?

Why is it that no one ever answers this question?
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Luke Hayes on January 09, 2010, 00:22:33 am
Also, if the concept of this act was to say "everyone is fair; no one is higher than anyone else", why is it that the F.B.I. members keep THEIR colors? Why are they so 'special'? I remember that I was told, numerously, that the F.B.I. had no power over the S.A.P.D. I was told that we were equal. If this is true, why aren't they treated the same?

Why is it that no one ever answers this question?

Some questions are ought to stay unanswered.....I too agree with your equivalency theory,I say theory because once upon a time that promise was broken.There is nothing changed here nor nothing new said...Effectiveness of the SAPD has decreased over F.B.I as it leads all our operations,yet before they led only 207 an now they implicate into every our action taking the head lead
and I seriously do not know why?!

I do support the changes but why giving F.B.I the privileges of keeping the color ?
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: RoryAnstruther on January 09, 2010, 00:47:19 am
I believe that FBI keeps their color because they don't discriminate against freecops and cadets like ARPD does, and they are most of the time undercover. If you think about it, discrimination and behavior is what forced us all to have the same name colors. They also have a dark blue name because of their ability to use heavy weapons and weapon equip. You cannot.

Also. It's a freaking color.. Just play the game. Almost all the other servers require everyone to have a white name, so god forbid we change the tint and saturation of your privileged blue name.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Jcstodds on January 09, 2010, 00:53:07 am
FBI and SWAT might actually find it beneficial to have same blue colours, so people cannot determine on radar who is nearby :), which is always an advantage in any operation. I don't even understand why it is a privilege having coloured name, but then again I put more effort into having fun and RPing than seeking attention.

  And all you guys who moan about "we want to be special blue because we are special" or whatever it was, if you get treated like shit when you are not special blue colour, then you should probably consider that it is now your actions that determine your respect and not your alias colour.

Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Cane on January 09, 2010, 00:58:51 am
Also. It's a freaking color.. Just play the game. Almost all the other servers require everyone to have a white name, so god forbid we change the tint and saturation of your privileged blue name.

Did you even bother to read my post?
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Aryin James on January 09, 2010, 01:07:27 am
FBI keeps their color because they don't discriminate against freecops

I'm sorry but you have NO IDEA.....what FBI says about Freecops ; even though you've been in FBI, I've seen someone in FBI say all out in the open - police radio - some bad things about freecops in general ..... So before you say that FBI doesn't discriminate against Freecops I'd have you know in a quick heart beat that they actually do.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Oliver Daniels on January 09, 2010, 01:13:46 am
FBI and SWAT might actually find it beneficial to have same blue colours, so people cannot determine on radar who is nearby :),


Which one do you find more frightening: A bunch of light-blue dots approacting you or a bunch of dark-blue dots approaching you? Criminals might not expect SWAT busting in on their little party if SWAT had light-blue names like every other cop and that might make operations even more successful.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Cane on January 09, 2010, 01:27:30 am
They also have a dark blue name because of their ability to use heavy weapons and weapon equip. You cannot.

Which makes me ask the following:

How is this fair? Every single agent has access to the almighty /weaponequip command, and it has been used wrongly numerous times. What the f**k are we, compared to them? Minorities?
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: [Rstar]Vince on January 09, 2010, 01:36:10 am
The only reason FBI keep their color is because they are an "elite" division as quoted from the higher ups, I suggest cb to respond here with a more in dept answer.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: RoryAnstruther on January 09, 2010, 01:52:24 am
I refuse to post any further in this topic because half the people posting in here are stuck up about the color of their names, and instead of working together and solving issues they're worried about their power and abilities.

Have fun arguing and moaning about things that you were giving privileges for. Last I checked, no one had the right to do anything, you had the privilege to do something. It's about time people realized that.

Good bye.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Sago on January 09, 2010, 01:58:46 am
I believe that FBI keeps their color because they don't discriminate against freecops and cadets like ARPD does,

You humor me Rory.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: SKenney on January 09, 2010, 02:19:50 am
Meh, its all good with me.

Gets a bit confusing now seeing who is who or what, but I have no problem.

About the frisk command, I never used it much anyway, so im cool with that.
Just hope criminals will atleast try and give over a little of there drugs. Kind of reminds me when I was a Cadet, I RP friked people and would find drugs, pretty sure they had more, but im cool with it. As long as they put forth effort to role play it, then im happy  :)
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Jcstodds on January 09, 2010, 02:40:32 am
The privilege of /weaponequip is so amazing that I prefer to patrol with a sword than any other gun. Which I buy from ammunation. 
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Cane on January 09, 2010, 02:54:53 am
I refuse to post any further in this topic because half the people posting in here are stuck up about the color of their names, and instead of working together and solving issues they're worried about their power and abilities.

Have fun arguing and moaning about things that you were giving privileges for. Last I checked, no one had the right to do anything, you had the privilege to do something. It's about time people realized that.

Good bye.

I laugh at your lacking ability to read and understand, Rory. If you ever bothered to read my previous post carefully enough, the color that you think so little of has a significance. We're not moaning about anything, we're standing up for what we believe in. It's about time stuck-up people like you realized the difference.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Boricua56 on January 09, 2010, 02:55:44 am
They also have a dark blue name because of their ability to use heavy weapons and weapon equip. You cannot.

Which makes me ask the following:

How is this fair? Every single agent has access to the almighty /weaponequip command, and it has been used wrongly numerous times. What the f**k are we, compared to them? Minorities?

The FBI agents know very well that if they abuse the /weaponequip command they will be punished, this can include dismissal or suspension. Do you think this command is used randomly? We have strict regulations that limit the use of this command to specific situations. If you have seen FBI agents using this command wrongly so many times how come you haven't reported anything in our forums?
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Cane on January 09, 2010, 03:01:46 am
The FBI agents know very well that if they abuse the /weaponequip command they will be punished, this can include dismissal or suspension. Do you think this command is used randomly? We have strict regulations that limit the use of this command to specific situations. If you have seen FBI agents using this command wrongly so many times how come you haven't reported anything in our forums? This topic inst named 'FBI vs SAPD' advantages.

Actually, to answer your question, yes, I indeed believe that this command has been used randomly. I'm sure I can provide you with a large amount of witnesses, who have both seen and will agree with my statements regarding a small selection of your agents abusing this command. The only reason as to why I did not report was because I assumed, as well as many others, that the report wasn't going to be taken seriously. And yes, you are correct, the topic isn't about the issue of FBI vs. SAPD, however, all I have done was to question the so-called 'difference' between the two divisions in relation to the so-called 'equality' theory of the act, performed by CBFASI.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Dakota_11 on January 09, 2010, 03:17:31 am
I Argree on Color Changes, But the only Thing i disagree is /frisk I Wish we Freecops *Wtih passports Only* Shall Be able to Frisk, I tried rping, And i said He had a M4 And he said : /me Has Nothing, And i Know im just freecop But we should have our Rights too
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Boricua56 on January 09, 2010, 03:27:33 am
The FBI agents know very well that if they abuse the /weaponequip command they will be punished, this can include dismissal or suspension. Do you think this command is used randomly? We have strict regulations that limit the use of this command to specific situations. If you have seen FBI agents using this command wrongly so many times how come you haven't reported anything in our forums? This topic inst named 'FBI vs SAPD' advantages.

Actually, to answer your question, yes, I indeed believe that this command has been used randomly. I'm sure I can provide you with a large amount of witnesses, who have both seen and will agree with my statements regarding a small selection of your agents abusing this command. The only reason as to why I did not report was because I knew, as well as many others, that the report wasn't going to be taken seriously. And yes, you are correct, the topic isn't about the issue of FBI vs. SAPD, however, all I have done was to question the so-called 'difference' between the two divisions in relation to the so-called 'equality' theory of the act, performed by CBFASI.

 First you claim that the FBI have used this command wrongly numerous times, then to explain why you didn't reported this you are saying that the FBI command wouldn't take seriously any of your reports. This is one of the poorest excuses i have ever seen to try and justify the unjustifiable. I wonder why we didn't received any complaints from the large amount of witness... Your accusations are pointless and do not have any foundation whatsoever.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: James Bowling on January 09, 2010, 03:28:37 am
Dakota Im sorry but I can not help to dissagree officers + don't have the command now if you want the command please apply to arpd and learn the rules of arpd No one has the command right now so... Without being disresptfull as ranks are Freecops are not part of arpd.... So that's why you should apply.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: James Bowling on January 09, 2010, 03:32:43 am
Ok look we all Know that the criminals will lie and we will never get any narcotics and crime rate will spike.............. But we can not do anything about it ok if this ever comes back i hope we could install new rules such as.

1  Only 1 frisk is Premitted if you re frisk it is abusing command
2  Civilians May report for abuse of command ( refrisking )
3  Seeing the cops Irl Never find Residue that will not be a time premitted
4  If abuse is found of the command you will face ARPD/ Admin action




Anyone like this
  

I'm just wondering does anyone likes this idea I mean if we could follow these rules could we have the commands  
And /frisk to stop all the confusion and anger

Please Cbfasi
Now i don't want to say that the commands Must come back but it would be nice

Now for the Disrespect towards Freecops / Cadets

1  These are people to this is a game so dont get all high and mighty
2 Personally i think that anyone found disrespecting other ranks should be demoted.  
3  If you are an officer and you can not respect other ranks you have not matured past them
Just because someone is not as experienced as you does not mean you have the right
4  if a Freecop / Cadet feels that he has been  abuse he is to report it

Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Cane on January 09, 2010, 03:42:06 am
First you claim that the FBI have used this command wrongly numerous times, then to explain why you didn't reported this you are saying that the FBI command wouldn't take seriously any of your reports. This is one of the poorest excuses i have ever seen to try and justify the unjustifiable. I wonder why we didn't received any complaints from the large amount of witness... Your accusations are pointless and do not have any foundation whatsoever.

However, this isn't the point of the argument. The main subject of this conflict is: Is the FBI so special that they get to keep their rightful colors, or labels, unlike the rest of the hard-working SAPD members? What sort of special privileges do you have that we don't? Why is it that you are given the right to show your title unlike the rest of us? To be fairly honest, and this is from my observation, I've seen FBI members disrespected just like freecops. Why should YOU be any different?
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: SKenney on January 09, 2010, 03:57:23 am
Oh who the f**k cares.

This is a dumb argument guys, can it be dropped?
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Boricua56 on January 09, 2010, 03:58:58 am
First you claim that the FBI have used this command wrongly numerous times, then to explain why you didn't reported this you are saying that the FBI command wouldn't take seriously any of your reports. This is one of the poorest excuses i have ever seen to try and justify the unjustifiable. I wonder why we didn't received any complaints from the large amount of witness... Your accusations are pointless and do not have any foundation whatsoever.

However, this isn't the point of the argument. The main subject of this conflict is: Is the FBI so special that they get to keep their rightful colors, or labels, unlike the rest of the hard-working SAPD members? What sort of special privileges do you have that we don't? Why is it that you are given the right to show your title unlike the rest of us? To be fairly honest, and this is from my observation, I've seen FBI members disrespected just like freecops. Why should YOU be any different?

About my previous statement i was merely responding to your accusations. Also there is no conflict here, that is just your point of view.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Aryin James on January 09, 2010, 04:21:42 am
You people are merely confused and yet again dumbfounded.....

The name change:  Best damn idea I've ever seen in my life, CBFasi I'd like to congratulate you on changing our colors due to the fact that all Freecops and Cadets get abused by the fact that they're a lesser color than "Official ARPD Officers"; But I also have to disagree on the FBI/SWAT colors as they should be the same colors as the rest of us.  This is portraying a simple conflict of metagaming for those of which who kidnap / rob / and so on and so forth.  They'll see that FBI/SWAT are around, and all of the officers/cadets/freecops, they will know how to escape and where to escape, if the SWAT/FBI were in the same color then the odds of them escaping would be less.  And another concern framing the colors - yes, us ARPD Officers+ Worked HARD to get where we are today and we appreciated our color difference from the others - I for one love dark blue so I loved my color - but the thing is with our colors all being the same, it makes everybody want to question our intelligence on what we know and how far we can go with our "RP Skill" because as of now Civilians can not /rank an officer to see what there rank is.  And if you've never seen/RPed with that specific player they'd never know what you were in the lines of ARPD as where you could look at our badge (name color) and see that we are and officer/cadet/freecop.

Now onto the Frisk.

Frisk:  I used frisk about 1-6 times in my career as an ARPD officer; I do not see the need of having to do /frisk as it posses a potential threat to You as an officer, and the civilians.  I've frisked a few people before and as soon as you frisked them, they'd pull an M4 out their a** and shoot you to death so they don't loose their drugs, involuntarily you may or may not have wanted to take it.....I would normally go through the whole frisking process of RP
( /me frisks mans body ; /yo ; /bomb ; /me finds...? )
[( /em Nothing.... )]
( /me finds nothing on the mans body ; /l Alright sir, I've found nothing on you and you're free to go with....*whatever* )
I've never had a case where a civilian says /em has 2000 grams of weed ; but I guess that's never fair...

Actually that has nothing to do with anything (^) But what I would really like to say is; every officer freecop and cadet alike should have the ability to /frisk a player, because I've noticed on many occasions freecops and cadets will ask an officer+ to come to LSPD or where ever they maybe to preform a frisk on a player...and sometimes (never all the time) the officers+ are busy.  I think /frisk should actually be a given privilege for those who do good/great within the policing world;; as you see freecops making their reports on their applications
( Daily report:
Killed 3 suspects
Jailed 7 suspects
Found 20Gs of weed
Found 7Gs of heroin)
Those people should be given the privileges to /frisk ; just like the undercover rights are a privilege to some people - those who work undercover for drug confiscations and such.....

I think if the above things were implemented then the whole ARPD would be a little bit better.

Just a suggestion though.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Pepper on January 09, 2010, 04:22:05 am
Well, today, I resigned, now I'm  a freecop, i wore the freecop skin and i simply can;t believe the disrespect i got, traf stops, people tell you to f**k off and go away, officers and a Lt. wont give you rides to the PD that is no more than 2 seconds away. damn.  :rules:
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Oliver Daniels on January 09, 2010, 04:26:32 am
if the SWAT/FBI were in the same color then the odds of them escaping would be less.

As in, they'd try to break through FBI/SWAT to get away easier? Makes sense actually :lol:
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Aryin James on January 09, 2010, 04:28:38 am
if the SWAT/FBI were in the same color then the odds of them escaping would be less.

As in, they'd try to break through FBI/SWAT to get away easier? Makes sense actually :lol:

well hell; if all our colors were the same, and you walked into about 7 SWAT members and you're suspected....what the hell do you think will happen? its either *pew pew pew* or /gu ..... their choice of death or life in that matter; ya'know?
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Oliver Daniels on January 09, 2010, 04:34:18 am
you walked into about 7 SWAT members and you're suspected....what the hell do you think will happen? its either *pew pew pew* or /gu ....

or SWAT just cba to shoot at you and will continue driving along
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Tyler Grey on January 09, 2010, 06:07:44 am
I love this change
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Lennie_Briscoe on January 09, 2010, 06:16:41 am
FBI keeps their color because they don't discriminate against freecops

I'm sorry but you have NO IDEA.....what FBI says about Freecops ; even though you've been in FBI, I've seen someone in FBI say all out in the open - police radio - some bad things about freecops in general ..... So before you say that FBI doesn't discriminate against Freecops I'd have you know in a quick heart beat that they actually do.

I will say this. FBI members are expected to treat everyone with respect. Those who do not will be dealt with in one way or another. Be it suspension or something like that.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Spartan on January 09, 2010, 08:42:59 am
Why can't we all be white? Why the hell not, solve a lot of f**king problems, and sure, remove /frisk, I mean, it's an RP server, EVERYONE will RP and they will like it, and knows how to do so, sounds like a done deal, and a plan to me.  :)

Way to go, happy for this.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Dolfa on January 09, 2010, 10:06:13 am
Yeh I love it!When I was freecop...officers shouted freecop alert when they saw me D:
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Chief J. Schappell on January 09, 2010, 10:17:13 am
Very impressive idea CBF! I will miss the dark blue, but this is what has to be done to solve the problems it seems! +10 Internets for you!

Any other changes planned at this point? Also, I've heard rumors of an alternative to /frisk. Any news on that as of yet to prevent users from lying about it so they can't take advantage of a RP?
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Janar on January 09, 2010, 12:01:03 pm
People is telling ingame(one of them is SAPD member), that weed is now legal. I am 100% sure, that is not legal. Stop telling false information, that weed is legal. The drug system for cops is same as it was in RS3 and will stay until something changes. So until that time, you can RP it with /me, or if  you can't RP it and you need all to be scripted, leave.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Jcstodds on January 09, 2010, 12:07:31 pm
Any news on that as of yet to prevent users from lying about it so they can't take advantage of a RP?
  A good RPer is fair and imaginative, and neither of these require absolute truth. Problem is you people are all to lazy to be imaginative and everyone is too greedy to be fair. So now everyone loses this /frisk command which is somewhat unfair and replaces any imaginative RP, and now you are looking for the next script to replace it?

  My advice is for everyone to take advantage of the new updates by trying something different for once. Instead of thinking "How much weed can I confiscate for this guy" think "How can I make this encounter funny and interesting?". If any drugs are handed over it is simply a bonus.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: [Rstar]CBFASI on January 09, 2010, 12:12:17 pm
Jcs has said it all....

RP does not NEED script, as a number are aware I aim to do scripts that SUPPORT RP but not take it over, the /frisk did the later in the end and was misused and abused, both of which to make safe would require a large amount of scripting, which I do not believe is worth the effort as this is a RP server afterall and RP is sadly lacking.

The Dark Blue for SWAT actually has not happened due to a bug and the more I think about it, may not happen...

As for FBI... I will be talking to them to discuss options.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Rabbit on January 09, 2010, 14:14:30 pm
Also, if the concept of this act was to say "everyone is fair; no one is higher than anyone else", why is it that the F.B.I. members keep THEIR colors? Why are they so 'special'? I remember that I was told, numerously, that the F.B.I. had no power over the S.A.P.D. I was told that we were equal. If this is true, why aren't they treated the same?

Why is it that no one ever answers this question?

I'm familiar with an old saying, "There's an answer for every problem, and two problems for every answer."
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: ElMartu on January 09, 2010, 14:20:37 pm
People is telling ingame(one of them is SAPD member), that weed is now legal. I am 100% sure, that is not legal. Stop telling false information, that weed is legal. The drug system for cops is same as it was in RS3 and will stay until something changes. So until that time, you can RP it with /me, or if  you can't RP it and you need all to be scripted, leave.

They're just people pissed with that changes sarcastically saying that now we don't have frisk weed is practically impossible to detect (hence the legal part).
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Dakota_11 on January 09, 2010, 14:27:47 pm
Dakota Im sorry but I can not help to dissagree officers + don't have the command now if you want the command please apply to arpd and learn the rules of arpd No one has the command right now so... Without being disresptfull as ranks are Freecops are not part of arpd.... So that's why you should apply.
simply i have waited over 2 months and i havn't got accepted yet so don't tell me to apply cause i already did
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: James Bowling on January 09, 2010, 16:49:33 pm
Dakota Im sorry but I can not help to dissagree officers + don't have the command now if you want the command please apply to arpd and learn the rules of arpd No one has the command right now so... Without being disresptfull as ranks are Freecops are not part of arpd.... So that's why you should apply.
simply i have waited over 2 months and i havn't got accepted yet so don't tell me to apply cause i already did


Dakota_11 i must say that some people dont get accepted for 3 months now if you have not been accepted keep trying memorise the rules and the police codes other than that i cant help
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Dakota_11 on January 10, 2010, 04:47:35 am
Dakota Im sorry but I can not help to dissagree officers + don't have the command now if you want the command please apply to arpd and learn the rules of arpd No one has the command right now so... Without being disresptfull as ranks are Freecops are not part of arpd.... So that's why you should apply.
simply i have waited over 2 months and i havn't got accepted yet so don't tell me to apply cause i already did


Dakota_11 i must say that some people dont get accepted for 3 months now if you have not been accepted keep trying memorise the rules and the police codes other than that i cant help
I know, I know the codes and rules
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Chief J. Schappell on January 10, 2010, 09:24:33 am
Dakota Im sorry but I can not help to dissagree officers + don't have the command now if you want the command please apply to arpd and learn the rules of arpd No one has the command right now so... Without being disresptfull as ranks are Freecops are not part of arpd.... So that's why you should apply.
simply i have waited over 2 months and i havn't got accepted yet so don't tell me to apply cause i already did


Dakota_11 i must say that some people dont get accepted for 3 months now if you have not been accepted keep trying memorise the rules and the police codes other than that i cant help
There is no set time on it like that. There are prerequisites, yes, but it is DEFINITELY not 3 months.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Ed_Lane on January 10, 2010, 11:12:14 am
i frisk a suspect max 2 times one time on scene or at the PD if i find drug residue i take them for a cavity search if i find nothing but still in green i jail
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: James Bowling on January 10, 2010, 17:18:26 pm
Dakota Im sorry but I can not help to dissagree officers + don't have the command now if you want the command please apply to arpd and learn the rules of arpd No one has the command right now so... Without being disresptfull as ranks are Freecops are not part of arpd.... So that's why you should apply.
simply i have waited over 2 months and i havn't got accepted yet so don't tell me to apply cause i already did


Dakota_11 i must say that some people dont get accepted for 3 months now if you have not been accepted keep trying memorise the rules and the police codes other than that i cant help
I know, I know the codes and rules



Dakota this is Probably the wrong topic to post in
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Mac_Cabrazi on January 11, 2010, 01:09:03 am
i hav a question how do you abuse /frisk?
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: ElMartu on January 11, 2010, 01:11:33 am
i hav a question how do you abuse /frisk?

frisking, if you don't find anything, wait 2 minutes, frisk again until success
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Anthony Chicane on January 11, 2010, 05:49:25 am
Disabling /frisk ??? wtf is up with that?, now we will have more drugs on the street and more people moaning " You cant Force rp" with this rp bullshit.
Even the Most strictest rp servers have this command . Argo is definetly Going down i think its turning into  dm server full of noobs
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Oliver Daniels on January 11, 2010, 06:14:15 am
Argo is definetly Going down i think its turning into  dm server full of noobs


Quoted for epic. You can be banned for that comment ^_^
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Mac_Cabrazi on January 11, 2010, 11:31:56 am
i hav a question how do you abuse /frisk?

frisking, if you don't find anything, wait 2 minutes, frisk again until success
o wow if thats the case why doesnt the frisk time be like 15 mins?  if you frisk some1 then the next time some1 can frisk that same person should be 15 mins
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Webster on January 11, 2010, 13:47:32 pm
Oh noez :( I like it that /frisk has been desabled but the colourz..We wunt ze colours back..Just let the copz haz ze Dark bluez colorz
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Dutchy on January 11, 2010, 16:00:47 pm
Oh noez :( I like it that /frisk has been desabled but the colourz..We wunt ze colours back..Just let the copz haz ze Dark bluez colorz
''Yea! I want the colours back, they only delivered positive things! Freecops were getting judged and disrespected! I want that back! Bwehhh!'' FFS! It's better like this! Colours = judging, disrespecting, overestimating, underestimating A.K.A. completely useless!
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Janar on January 11, 2010, 16:21:58 pm
Getting /frisk back, would be nice.
But colors can stay.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: AndrewR on January 11, 2010, 16:28:21 pm
Oh noez :( I like it that /frisk has been desabled but the colourz..We wunt ze colours back..Just let the copz haz ze Dark bluez colorz
''Yea! I want the colours back, they only delivered positive things! Freecops were getting judged and disrespected! I want that back! Bwehhh!'' FFS! It's better like this! Colours = judging, disrespecting, overestimating, underestimating A.K.A. completely useless!

You say that because you are a freecop? :D
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: ElMartu on January 11, 2010, 18:14:05 pm
Oh noez :( I like it that /frisk has been desabled but the colourz..We wunt ze colours back..Just let the copz haz ze Dark bluez colorz
''Yea! I want the colours back, they only delivered positive things! Freecops were getting judged and disrespected! I want that back! Bwehhh!'' FFS! It's better like this! Colours = judging, disrespecting, overestimating, underestimating A.K.A. completely useless!

You say that because you are a freecop? :D

No, he says that because it's the truth.


If somebody didn't notice, it's just a name color.l
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Kiryan on January 11, 2010, 20:39:21 pm
So now a freecop is same as a Officer?
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: AndrewR on January 11, 2010, 20:47:00 pm
So now a freecop is same as a Officer?

Yes, and now officers do not have the /frisk command so, all cops can now be considered freecops................
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: SafetyMoose on January 11, 2010, 21:14:03 pm
So now a freecop is same as a Officer?

Yes, and now officers do not have the /frisk command so, all cops can now be considered freecops................

The whole reason i wanted to become an officer was so i could /frisk. now that everyone has the same rights, where is the motivation to want to rise to higher ranks? We all have the same rights so it makes no difference.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: ElMartu on January 11, 2010, 21:15:34 pm
You're officers, not freecops ffs... we're not the same. Just a f**king color changed nothing else. If you think you're freecops, resign then, why you wanna be in SAPD after all?

Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: JayL on January 11, 2010, 21:28:36 pm
If you are a decent roleplayer you can atleast bother to try and RP a frisk.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Alan Demarest on January 11, 2010, 22:09:07 pm
decent roleplayer

roleplayer


Good luck finding those! They're very scarce on these parts! Arr!
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Jcstodds on January 11, 2010, 22:20:19 pm
If you don't like it, leave SAPD. If you want to just say a load of bullshit like "now SAPD are freecops", SAPD does not want you because you have a shitty attitude and do not even understand what SAPD is about.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: JayL on January 11, 2010, 22:44:45 pm
decent roleplayer

roleplayer


Good luck finding those! They're very scarce on these parts! Arr!

I have two things for you to find:

Respect
Forum ban
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Luke Hayes on January 11, 2010, 23:09:05 pm
So now a freecop is same as a Officer?

Yes, and now officers do not have the /frisk command so, all cops can now be considered freecops................

So now a freecop is same as a Officer?

And these are the attitudes that motivated these changes......Freecops are not different then Officers...It is the experience and the ability to RP that makes us go apart...I do not understand why such attitude..? Why treating then them as they aren't humans ? I have met some really fine free officers
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: TinMan on January 11, 2010, 23:16:32 pm
You people are merely confused and yet again dumbfounded.....

The name change:  Best damn idea I've ever seen in my life, CBFasi I'd like to congratulate you on changing our colors due to the fact that all Freecops and Cadets get abused by the fact that they're a lesser color than "Official ARPD Officers"; But I also have to disagree on the FBI/SWAT colors as they should be the same colors as the rest of us.  This is portraying a simple conflict of metagaming for those of which who kidnap / rob / and so on and so forth.  They'll see that FBI/SWAT are around, and all of the officers/cadets/freecops, they will know how to escape and where to escape, if the SWAT/FBI were in the same color then the odds of them escaping would be less.  And another concern framing the colors - yes, us ARPD Officers+ Worked HARD to get where we are today and we appreciated our color difference from the others - I for one love dark blue so I loved my color - but the thing is with our colors all being the same, it makes everybody want to question our intelligence on what we know and how far we can go with our "RP Skill" because as of now Civilians can not /rank an officer to see what there rank is.  And if you've never seen/RPed with that specific player they'd never know what you were in the lines of ARPD as where you could look at our badge (name color) and see that we are and officer/cadet/freecop.

Now onto the Frisk.

Frisk:  I used frisk about 1-6 times in my career as an ARPD officer; I do not see the need of having to do /frisk as it posses a potential threat to You as an officer, and the civilians.  I've frisked a few people before and as soon as you frisked them, they'd pull an M4 out their a** and shoot you to death so they don't loose their drugs, involuntarily you may or may not have wanted to take it.....I would normally go through the whole frisking process of RP
( /me frisks mans body ; /yo ; /bomb ; /me finds...? )
[( /em Nothing.... )]
( /me finds nothing on the mans body ; /l Alright sir, I've found nothing on you and you're free to go with....*whatever* )
I've never had a case where a civilian says /em has 2000 grams of weed ; but I guess that's never fair...

Actually that has nothing to do with anything (^) But what I would really like to say is; every officer freecop and cadet alike should have the ability to /frisk a player, because I've noticed on many occasions freecops and cadets will ask an officer+ to come to LSPD or where ever they maybe to preform a frisk on a player...and sometimes (never all the time) the officers+ are busy.  I think /frisk should actually be a given privilege for those who do good/great within the policing world;; as you see freecops making their reports on their applications
( Daily report:
Killed 3 suspects
Jailed 7 suspects
Found 20Gs of weed
Found 7Gs of heroin)
Those people should be given the privileges to /frisk ; just like the undercover rights are a privilege to some people - those who work undercover for drug confiscations and such.....

I think if the above things were implemented then the whole ARPD would be a little bit better.

Just a suggestion though.


100% agree.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Chief J. Schappell on January 11, 2010, 23:31:20 pm
You people are merely confused and yet again dumbfounded.....

The name change:  Best damn idea I've ever seen in my life, CBFasi I'd like to congratulate you on changing our colors due to the fact that all Freecops and Cadets get abused by the fact that they're a lesser color than "Official ARPD Officers"; But I also have to disagree on the FBI/SWAT colors as they should be the same colors as the rest of us.  This is portraying a simple conflict of metagaming for those of which who kidnap / rob / and so on and so forth.  They'll see that FBI/SWAT are around, and all of the officers/cadets/freecops, they will know how to escape and where to escape, if the SWAT/FBI were in the same color then the odds of them escaping would be less.  And another concern framing the colors - yes, us ARPD Officers+ Worked HARD to get where we are today and we appreciated our color difference from the others - I for one love dark blue so I loved my color - but the thing is with our colors all being the same, it makes everybody want to question our intelligence on what we know and how far we can go with our "RP Skill" because as of now Civilians can not /rank an officer to see what there rank is.  And if you've never seen/RPed with that specific player they'd never know what you were in the lines of ARPD as where you could look at our badge (name color) and see that we are and officer/cadet/freecop.

Now onto the Frisk.

Frisk:  I used frisk about 1-6 times in my career as an ARPD officer; I do not see the need of having to do /frisk as it posses a potential threat to You as an officer, and the civilians.  I've frisked a few people before and as soon as you frisked them, they'd pull an M4 out their a** and shoot you to death so they don't loose their drugs, involuntarily you may or may not have wanted to take it.....I would normally go through the whole frisking process of RP
( /me frisks mans body ; /yo ; /bomb ; /me finds...? )
[( /em Nothing.... )]
( /me finds nothing on the mans body ; /l Alright sir, I've found nothing on you and you're free to go with....*whatever* )
I've never had a case where a civilian says /em has 2000 grams of weed ; but I guess that's never fair...

Actually that has nothing to do with anything (^) But what I would really like to say is; every officer freecop and cadet alike should have the ability to /frisk a player, because I've noticed on many occasions freecops and cadets will ask an officer+ to come to LSPD or where ever they maybe to preform a frisk on a player...and sometimes (never all the time) the officers+ are busy.  I think /frisk should actually be a given privilege for those who do good/great within the policing world;; as you see freecops making their reports on their applications
( Daily report:
Killed 3 suspects
Jailed 7 suspects
Found 20Gs of weed
Found 7Gs of heroin)
Those people should be given the privileges to /frisk ; just like the undercover rights are a privilege to some people - those who work undercover for drug confiscations and such.....

I think if the above things were implemented then the whole ARPD would be a little bit better.

Just a suggestion though.


100% agree.
Agreed.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Kiryan on January 12, 2010, 14:27:16 pm
You people are merely confused and yet again dumbfounded.....

The name change:  Best damn idea I've ever seen in my life, CBFasi I'd like to congratulate you on changing our colors due to the fact that all Freecops and Cadets get abused by the fact that they're a lesser color than "Official ARPD Officers"; But I also have to disagree on the FBI/SWAT colors as they should be the same colors as the rest of us.  This is portraying a simple conflict of metagaming for those of which who kidnap / rob / and so on and so forth.  They'll see that FBI/SWAT are around, and all of the officers/cadets/freecops, they will know how to escape and where to escape, if the SWAT/FBI were in the same color then the odds of them escaping would be less.  And another concern framing the colors - yes, us ARPD Officers+ Worked HARD to get where we are today and we appreciated our color difference from the others - I for one love dark blue so I loved my color - but the thing is with our colors all being the same, it makes everybody want to question our intelligence on what we know and how far we can go with our "RP Skill" because as of now Civilians can not /rank an officer to see what there rank is.  And if you've never seen/RPed with that specific player they'd never know what you were in the lines of ARPD as where you could look at our badge (name color) and see that we are and officer/cadet/freecop.

Now onto the Frisk.

Frisk:  I used frisk about 1-6 times in my career as an ARPD officer; I do not see the need of having to do /frisk as it posses a potential threat to You as an officer, and the civilians.  I've frisked a few people before and as soon as you frisked them, they'd pull an M4 out their a** and shoot you to death so they don't loose their drugs, involuntarily you may or may not have wanted to take it.....I would normally go through the whole frisking process of RP
( /me frisks mans body ; /yo ; /bomb ; /me finds...? )
[( /em Nothing.... )]
( /me finds nothing on the mans body ; /l Alright sir, I've found nothing on you and you're free to go with....*whatever* )
I've never had a case where a civilian says /em has 2000 grams of weed ; but I guess that's never fair...

Actually that has nothing to do with anything (^) But what I would really like to say is; every officer freecop and cadet alike should have the ability to /frisk a player, because I've noticed on many occasions freecops and cadets will ask an officer+ to come to LSPD or where ever they maybe to preform a frisk on a player...and sometimes (never all the time) the officers+ are busy.  I think /frisk should actually be a given privilege for those who do good/great within the policing world;; as you see freecops making their reports on their applications
( Daily report:
Killed 3 suspects
Jailed 7 suspects
Found 20Gs of weed
Found 7Gs of heroin)
Those people should be given the privileges to /frisk ; just like the undercover rights are a privilege to some people - those who work undercover for drug confiscations and such.....

I think if the above things were implemented then the whole ARPD would be a little bit better.

Just a suggestion though.


100% agree.
Agreed.

Agreed.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Oliver Daniels on January 12, 2010, 16:09:05 pm

I have two things for you to find:

Respect
Forum ban

So basically, your idea is "U disrespected me an u get an b&"?

Although I agree that Cero's comment was disrespectful and unnecessary, it should not warrant for a forum ban..
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: [MCRT]Mike on January 12, 2010, 19:51:14 pm
To be honest i think /frisk should have been kept, Now criminals will just get away with growing drugs.
And for drugs busts, their gone.
Also i think Officers+ should keep dark blue and just Freecops and Cadets have Cadet colour.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Jcstodds on January 12, 2010, 19:54:51 pm
  If you absolutely believe criminals have drugs you can still jail for max time etc... Even if they say "i dont have drugs" and you saw them harvest... it does not mean they get away with it. Take them to the middle of the sea and drop them in it. This will make the drugs soggy and ruin them.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: jemerson on January 12, 2010, 20:01:39 pm
I put people in Mordor until they give me the drugs. I have all day.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: ElMartu on January 12, 2010, 20:38:10 pm
  If you absolutely believe criminals have drugs you can still jail for max time etc... Even if they say "i dont have drugs" and you saw them harvest... it does not mean they get away with it. Take them to the middle of the sea and drop them in it. This will make the drugs soggy and ruin them.

And get reported for corruption later? :<

Tell me it's not corruption and I'll start practicing it
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Jcstodds on January 12, 2010, 20:54:45 pm
And get reported for corruption later? :<

Tell me it's not corruption and I'll start practicing it

  I think it's just 'alternative punishment'. For example, criminal is swimming out to sea south of Angel Pine. You could call in a boat, which the criminal will probably steal, or you could follow in your heli laughing at him, then just leave him and find him later. The punishment being that he has to swim/run for miles to get to the nearest car. Although, you do take responsibilities for your own actions, so you need to be fair and just. Also my disclaimer is that it is not official policy and other members of SAPD may well disagree with actions.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Mac_Cabrazi on January 12, 2010, 22:46:41 pm
I put people in Mordor until they give me the drugs. I have all day.
that wont work all the time because for example im in possesion of ALOT of drugs you catch me you throw me in mordor then ill just give you 20g of weed ( which is basically nothing) or more
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: [Rstar]Vince on January 12, 2010, 23:17:46 pm
  If you absolutely believe criminals have drugs you can still jail for max time etc... Even if they say "i dont have drugs" and you saw them harvest... it does not mean they get away with it. Take them to the middle of the sea and drop them in it. This will make the drugs soggy and ruin them.

And get reported for corruption later? :<

Tell me it's not corruption and I'll start practicing it

As Jcs has stated it is a more creative form of punishment instead of the usual suspect, surrender, jail process. If done in a way as Captain Toddlesworth has described you will not get punished.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: ElMartu on January 12, 2010, 23:20:48 pm
  If you absolutely believe criminals have drugs you can still jail for max time etc... Even if they say "i dont have drugs" and you saw them harvest... it does not mean they get away with it. Take them to the middle of the sea and drop them in it. This will make the drugs soggy and ruin them.

And get reported for corruption later? :<

Tell me it's not corruption and I'll start practicing it

As Jcs has stated it is a more creative form of punishment instead of the usual suspect, surrender, jail process. If done in a way as Captain Toddlesworth has described you will not get punished.

ok
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Officer_Brost on January 15, 2010, 19:29:33 pm
I didn't really like this idea at all, removing the /frisk command and the dark blue colour for officers...

So now theese days a Sergant, Captain and Freecop got the same respect... COOL! :mad: but sad for the Sergants and the Captains that done all the hard work :(

Brost
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Jcstodds on January 15, 2010, 19:38:37 pm
I didn't really like this idea at all, removing the /frisk command and the dark blue colour for officers...

So now theese days a Sergant, Captain and Freecop got the same respect... COOL! :mad: but sad for the Sergants and the Captains that done all the hard work :(

Brost
  If all are the same colour you will get the respect you earn from your actions and not rank. Ranks are gained because of respect and ability, not the other way around.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Officer_Brost on January 15, 2010, 19:53:43 pm
I didn't really like this idea at all, removing the /frisk command and the dark blue colour for officers...

So now theese days a Sergant, Captain and Freecop got the same respect... COOL! :mad: but sad for the Sergants and the Captains that done all the hard work :(

Brost
  If all are the same colour you will get the respect you earn from your actions and not rank. Ranks are gained because of respect and ability, not the other way around.


Then why not remove all the exams arpd got and the hard work you have to do...
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: ElMartu on January 15, 2010, 20:16:51 pm
I didn't really like this idea at all, removing the /frisk command and the dark blue colour for officers...

So now theese days a Sergant, Captain and Freecop got the same respect... COOL! :mad: but sad for the Sergants and the Captains that done all the hard work :(

Brost
  If all are the same colour you will get the respect you earn from your actions and not rank. Ranks are gained because of respect and ability, not the other way around.


Then why not remove all the exams arpd got and the hard work you have to do...

You can always decide to resign from your cadet rank and put no effort. It'd have the same effect, and you won't need an approval from the command staff.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Jcstodds on January 15, 2010, 20:50:09 pm

Then why not remove all the exams arpd got and the hard work you have to do...
 Err what? The exams are a quick route to finding good RPers and those who suite ARPD SAPD well. I don't see how your argument even applies to my statement.  :conf:
  If you want to be in ARPD because you want to RP a cop, the exams should not be thought as ANY work, since you should be using the exam guidelines to RP a cop for fun anyway... If you think it is a lost of hard work being a SAPD cop, it's only your choice to be put in that situation.



I will spell it out bluntly for you all:

  If people are disrespecting you (who didn't before) because of your name colour and you can't show them why you should be respected (through RP/ personality) - it's because you don't deserve the respect you had in the first place. So rather than moan that it has become more difficult for yourself, think of how you can improve on any bad personal traits you have to gain the respect you want. Actions speak louder than your alias colour.

Although you will still get the odd guy who will just disrespect everyone anyway! But that is not something new.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: jemerson on January 15, 2010, 20:52:22 pm
Nicely put! +1
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: DaSicka on January 15, 2010, 20:59:45 pm
Wow This will hopefully get some RP
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: AndrewR on January 15, 2010, 21:23:08 pm
At first I didn't like those changes but now I see more teamwork between Freecops and cadets+ :cop:
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: [Rstar]Vince on January 15, 2010, 22:01:33 pm
Wow This will hopefully get some RP















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Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: VeLuX on January 16, 2010, 14:03:14 pm
i dont think that it are the color there grain "Freecops" Freeofficers more Respect, But if they was working under same rules & Laws as ARPD will they get more respect.. in my time as Officer & Criminal have i seen so many Freeofficers there Abuse there rights and know they are.. and they just say "im not a part of arpd, so i shall not follow the Process"

Get Freeofficers under same rules as Arpd officers = more Respect from the hole Community
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Simon_B on January 16, 2010, 14:15:06 pm
i dont think that it are the color there grain "Freecops" Freeofficers more Respect, But if they was working under same rules & Laws as ARPD will they get more respect.. in my time as Officer & Criminal have i seen so many Freeofficers there Abuse there rights and know they are.. and they just say "im not a part of arpd, so i shall not follow the Process"

Get Freeofficers under same rules as Arpd officers = more Respect from the hole Community
I dont understand either why freecops doesnt have to follow any rules of ARPD, they working for SAPD wich is the same as ARPD, but apparently you can do like you want to, and then the rest of ARPD can just look at it and do nothing, since he's a ''freecop'' i personally thinks either freecop removed or make them following the same rules as ARPD, because citizens of Argonath doesnt likes the current ''freecops'' due to the fact most of them wont follow the rules or doesnt know them at all.

Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: AndrewR on January 16, 2010, 14:49:22 pm
I think freecops should be removed and civilians would have to apply to get Cadet rank, so that means no more abusive cops, or cops that don't know the procedures
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: SKenney on January 16, 2010, 16:55:49 pm
i dont think that it are the color there grain "Freecops" Freeofficers more Respect, But if they was working under same rules & Laws as ARPD will they get more respect.. in my time as Officer & Criminal have i seen so many Freeofficers there Abuse there rights and know they are.. and they just say "im not a part of arpd, so i shall not follow the Process"

Get Freeofficers under same rules as Arpd officers = more Respect from the hole Community
I dont understand either why freecops doesnt have to follow any rules of ARPD, they working for SAPD wich is the same as ARPD, but apparently you can do like you want to, and then the rest of ARPD can just look at it and do nothing, since he's a ''freecop'' i personally thinks either freecop removed or make them following the same rules as ARPD, because citizens of Argonath doesnt likes the current ''freecops'' due to the fact most of them wont follow the rules or doesnt know them at all.


Hell you know I've said it before about the freecops. I compleatly agree with you guys.

The Freecops NEED to be under the rule of SAPD. Its really dumb, and I mean dumb, that they are police, but are not under order from SAPD.

The way I see it, they are Government Supported Vigilantes.

Too many times freecops give the smartass reaction "lol no SAPD can't order frecops" when they are given an order, task, or instructed on how to properally do something. Hey, if there wearing a police officers uniform, then they are cops, so then they are under the control of SAPD. I don't want to see a loss to the freecops, but they need to be under the command of SAPD.

I can't really babble on much more, but im sure you all get what im saying.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Shawn Edwards on January 16, 2010, 17:15:53 pm
Why don't we all just adapt to the changes that CBFasi has set, and stop groaning and moaning.  :D
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Jcstodds on January 16, 2010, 17:20:19 pm

  What you guys don't understand: GTA cops are corrupt. In the GTA style, characters like Tenpenny exist because it keeps the game fun. ARPD SAPD is a faction of police that in general try to obey somewhat lifelike police conduct.
  If someone wished, they could make a corrupt cop group and if successful, get as much support as SAPD or FBI, as long as they don't break server rules.

  Freecops saying "SAPD have no control over me" are mistaken. SAPD has more organization, more weapons and higher authority, given by the Government. If freecops try to hurt you, they can become suspected, or imprisoned through another RP way to teach them that they are not free to be criminal cops. (If  abusing police powers, that is an admin concern which is different from ARPD/ SAPD matters).

  Yes, freecops are volunteers. They are cops to prevent crime part time. They are nothing to do with SAPD and SAPD will not take control over them.

  Frankly, if you can't control freecops, that isn't their fault, it's yours. Do not think SAPD is not the ultimate police who control everything. Argonath is about universality and imaginative RP, and so will not support such limitations.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Cane on January 16, 2010, 17:22:57 pm
 If someone wished, they could make a corrupt cop group and if successful, get as much support as SAPD or FBI, as long as they don't break server rules.

Squeak and I did that. We ended up getting fired.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Jcstodds on January 16, 2010, 17:27:56 pm
 If someone wished, they could make a corrupt cop group and if successful, get as much support as SAPD or FBI, as long as they don't break server rules.

Squeak and I did that. We ended up getting fired.
  If you misunderstood, I did not mean "make a group inside SAPD that is corrupt", it would have to be separate like FBI is.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Alan Demarest on January 16, 2010, 18:06:42 pm
  If someone wished, they could make a corrupt cop group and if successful, get as much support as SAPD or FBI, as long as they don't break server rules.

Squeak and I did that. We ended up getting fired.
  If you misunderstood, I did not mean "make a group inside SAPD that is corrupt", it would have to be separate like FBI is.

Why not? As you said, it's what makes the game interesting. I dont like the fact that SAPD-cops that actualy ROLEPLAY corrupt, gets fired.

1. They're actualy roleplaying as a cop.
2. They're roleplaying something fun and interesting.



Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: ElMartu on January 16, 2010, 18:12:43 pm
  If someone wished, they could make a corrupt cop group and if successful, get as much support as SAPD or FBI, as long as they don't break server rules.

Well, it's not really fun to play corrupt if you don't have any rights... :lol:
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: [Rstar]Vince on January 16, 2010, 19:23:05 pm
 If someone wished, they could make a corrupt cop group and if successful, get as much support as SAPD or FBI, as long as they don't break server rules.

Squeak and I did that. We ended up getting fired.

And you were both re-instated...
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Jcstodds on January 16, 2010, 19:29:22 pm
  If someone wished, they could make a corrupt cop group and if successful, get as much support as SAPD or FBI, as long as they don't break server rules.

Well, it's not really fun to play corrupt if you don't have any rights... :lol:
  Well if you played for the fun of it, and not the rights, you could get additional rights if your group is successful. But if rights are the only thing you play for, you would probably lose interest in it quite easily.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Cane on January 16, 2010, 19:42:39 pm
 If someone wished, they could make a corrupt cop group and if successful, get as much support as SAPD or FBI, as long as they don't break server rules.

Squeak and I did that. We ended up getting fired.

And you were both re-instated...

Ya but if we do it again we're gonna get fired again :(
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Allison on January 16, 2010, 20:08:30 pm
Cane, the last thing you need is to be fired.. Don't get fired again please.  :(
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: ElMartu on January 16, 2010, 21:30:43 pm
  If someone wished, they could make a corrupt cop group and if successful, get as much support as SAPD or FBI, as long as they don't break server rules.

Well, it's not really fun to play corrupt if you don't have any rights... :lol:
  Well if you played for the fun of it, and not the rights, you could get additional rights if your group is successful. But if rights are the only thing you play for, you would probably lose interest in it quite easily.

I meant that there is not much to be corrupt with if you lack an authority to abuse.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Jcstodds on January 16, 2010, 23:08:46 pm
  Corruption is used for personal gain (money, work, trust etc) which usually involves helping criminals - not just to abuse authority... for example taking a bribe and feeding cops a false reason information to help suspect (e.g. "This guy paid fine"). For all purposes, freecop powers are sufficient for most corrupt RP.

  Corruption is not to be confused with 'abusing' - abusing police powers to gain advantage (which breaches server rules) such as /su for false reasons to gain money. 

  For the benefit of the majority of SAPD members who want to RP good police, if you want to take on being a full time corrupt cop it is best to do it as a freecop so SAPD are not burdened with the amount of paperwork it generates.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Chief J. Schappell on January 17, 2010, 08:31:40 am
I actually have to agree with multiple points in this topic. Although I do not agree with removing FreeCops from the force, I do agree with requiring them to follow atleast some of ARPD's rules. Ever since the announcement of FreeCops not being required to follow SAPD laws, or report to SAPD command or orders, I have actually had MANY "smart-ass" FreeCops think it was funny to slap the fact in my face that they are not part of ARPD. They may not be members of the ARPD, but they are employees of SAPD itself. They are basically Volunteer Law Enforcement/Police-based Security Guards. They should be required to follow atleast some rules and laws, because the right to not have to do so has been heavily abused, and they cannot be suspected or administrated for it because according to SAPD, they are not breaking any laws or rules due to the above mentioned.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Jcstodds on January 17, 2010, 10:50:10 am
They should be required to follow atleast some rules and laws, because the right to not have to do so has been heavily abused, and they cannot be suspected or administrated for it because according to SAPD, they are not breaking any laws or rules due to the above mentioned.
   They have to follow same rules as everyone else, including SAPD - The rules of Argonath apply to everyone. As for laws, SAPD can punish freecops if they break the laws, even though most laws are broke through lack of understanding rather than intention, so it has always been encouraged to teach and help freecops rather than punish them.
  Freecops can get suspected by SAPD - that is the most basic punishment you can offer, apart from shooting them (which most of you wont do because of all important money). I can think of some more, such as jailing them via RP, excommunicating to countryside etc...

  You shouldn't let these smart ass freecops, -who are just out there to try piss off SAPD- get to you! Because SAPD has so much more power than they do, however perhaps you lack the imagination to use it. Sure we cannot give orders (well you can; do them more like threats), but it is our duty to abide by the Laws we set, and our duty to detain or otherwise any that breach these laws, freecops included - and this is perfectly possible with current scripts.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: VeLuX on January 17, 2010, 15:40:28 pm
IRL you can't join the police force without Follow there laws...
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Alan Demarest on January 17, 2010, 16:18:50 pm
IRL you can't join the police force without Follow there laws...

This is not RL. This is a game and we're trying to have fun.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Jcstodds on January 17, 2010, 16:24:59 pm
If you are confusing Argonath with real life, you need to seek medical attention.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Kenny on January 17, 2010, 19:50:30 pm
If you are confusing Argonath with real life, you need to seek medical attention.

Do you recomend any good medical hospital  :)

On-topic: At first i didnt agree with the color change, but now am used ot it, its no problem for me, you see more co-opearation between the police force, you no longer see 1 free cop chasing a suspect and all other officers just doign there thing. alot of cops join pursuits now and help out freecops in arrest and traffic stops.

but the /frisk command, i still dont agree with it, that just my opinion. you know if new /frsik was beign worked on, why not put the old one back untill this new one has been done.

because lately, criminals are being smart ass, when i tell them put your hands up, i will search you, they put it up, ad before i even type "/me serhces" the guy type "found nothing", its funny because i didnt even search him and he types found nothing  and some of them, i know they have drugs i ask them to hand it in, yet they refuse untill i call an admin to help. so this is making our job a little harder
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Jcstodds on January 17, 2010, 20:29:24 pm
  If you see them/ have witnesses etc of them growing drugs, you can still punish them for it even without them handing over any drugs. Just assume they hid it, unless they can prove otherwise.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: [TCL]Brian_G on January 18, 2010, 04:10:26 am
FBI is light blue now?
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: ElMartu on January 18, 2010, 04:28:37 am
Yes. It's good, having different colors only meant you were above us, while both SAPD and FBI command staff said that we were equals. :)

because lately, criminals are being smart ass, when i tell them put your hands up, i will search you, they put it up, ad before i even type "/me serhces" the guy type "found nothing", its funny because i didnt even search him and he types found nothing  and some of them, i know they have drugs i ask them to hand it in, yet they refuse untill i call an admin to help. so this is making our job a little harder

1. Admins should never be called for such a case, they're already busy enough to deal with a case that can be solved by yourself (point 2)

2. Roleplay well. They might actually give you something. If they don't, refer to Jcs DPD manual on how to conduct a cavity search.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Kenny on January 18, 2010, 19:50:50 pm
Maybe you should try to roleplay with some assholes, who dont give a shit about anything. people turning simple traffic stop to a C30 and criminals chasing cops. You know we get like only 180 smg and some deagle, this criminals just bring out like some combat and blast you away while you typing to tell them to /gu. and that 180 smg just runs out soo quickly because in this laggy conditions and most of the time, they are HP bugged. If we had maybe better equipment or something, like maybe more SMG or maybe free armour atleast, since we the cops are always in danger, more than the other police organisation who get weaponequip.

Just yesterday, me and JRockie were trying to arrest this criminal, and when we RP cuff him since he didnt wanna /gu, he kept on gettign in the car, and as soon as i get in the car, he gets out, and when i get out of the car, then he gets in, he did that like more than 20 times, so how can you roleplay with idiots like that? JRockie was present on scene and can collabrote this story.

Its just that no matter how much rules we make and we follow, we always gonna find someone who wount follow your guidline or even bother to RP.

This is not a moan or flame to any other police organisation, its just my opinion on how i see things, am sure alot of cops can agree with me.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: ElMartu on January 18, 2010, 20:43:30 pm
Maybe you should try to roleplay with some assholes, who dont give a shit about anything. people turning simple traffic stop to a C30 and criminals chasing cops. You know we get like only 180 smg and some deagle, this criminals just bring out like some combat and blast you away while you typing to tell them to /gu. and that 180 smg just runs out soo quickly because in this laggy conditions and most of the time, they are HP bugged. If we had maybe better equipment or something, like maybe more SMG or maybe free armour atleast, since we the cops are always in danger, more than the other police organisation who get weaponequip.

Just yesterday, me and JRockie were trying to arrest this criminal, and when we RP cuff him since he didnt wanna /gu, he kept on gettign in the car, and as soon as i get in the car, he gets out, and when i get out of the car, then he gets in, he did that like more than 20 times, so how can you roleplay with idiots like that? JRockie was present on scene and can collabrote this story.

Its just that no matter how much rules we make and we follow, we always gonna find someone who wount follow your guidline or even bother to RP.

This is not a moan or flame to any other police organisation, its just my opinion on how i see things, am sure alot of cops can agree with me.

Overll response to this post... If they don't roleplay, kill them. If you die in the process, oh well, it's just a game.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Bamf on January 25, 2010, 14:42:07 pm
In my oppinion Officer, FBI Agents SWAT Should have the Dark blue agian because its like there is nothing special to be an officer anymore its like ALL! or nearly all civillians disrespect cops because they think many are Freecops unless the known "Officers" but i like the idea with Frisk, i have seen alot of abuse :), (( its my oppinion not my desicion )) and about the frisk its nice to make some more RP now, its just pain in the ass to e true when like ALL criminals says
" Raise your hands, i've to do a regualary body check for any Drugs, weapons etc... "
- bla bla bla, in the meantime searhcing...
" (( what did i find? ))
" su: (( nothing ))

its like every suspect does that becaue now they cant get busted unless they RP or get busted at the weedfield

Signed by officer Bamf
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Jcstodds on January 25, 2010, 14:44:14 pm
  Being an officer is not about "being special", it is about being a good cop and wanting to work as a team will fellow officers.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: AndrewR on January 25, 2010, 14:55:06 pm
  Being an officer is not about "being special", it is about being a good cop and wanting to work as a team will fellow officers.

Yeah but now officers do not get respected at all...
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Oliver Daniels on January 25, 2010, 16:53:01 pm

Yeah but now officers do not get respected at all...

If you were 'respected' just because of your color then I'm sad to say that you've never been respected.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: [R*]Austin on January 25, 2010, 17:37:16 pm
Respect is relative.
If you do your work how you are supposed to do it, you certainly have the respect of your fellow officers.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: SafetyMoose on February 14, 2010, 01:43:27 am
Respect is relative.
If you do your work how you are supposed to do it, you certainly have the respect of your fellow officers.

When you have something working just fine, and everyb ody likes it, Why change it at the risk of losing everything you gained?
Enyone who knows enything about business would understand that -_-
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: =AV=Mark Visacci on February 14, 2010, 09:22:37 am
I like the idea of the name color changes, but can't you make frisk allowed for "Officers" only so "freecops" do not abuse it? (If that was the problem, that is) But yeah... everybody seems to have the same thing I was gonna say... What if the following occurs:

Cop: Any drugs or weapons on you?
Criminal: No
Cop - *Procedes to RP search*
Cop: Alright have a good day
Criminal - *Takes out gun and kills cop*

[Just a situation that has recently happened to me... Annoying as hell!!]
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Oliver Daniels on February 14, 2010, 09:34:02 am
I like the idea of the name color changes, but can't you make frisk allowed for "Officers" only so "freecops" do not abuse it? (If that was the problem, that is) But yeah... everybody seems to have the same thing I was gonna say... What if the following occurs:
Frisk was officer-only and as such, abused by officers+

Cop: Any drugs or weapons on you?
Criminal: No
Cop - *Procedes to RP search*
Cop: Alright have a good day
Criminal - *Takes out gun and kills cop*

Then the criminal is just a deathmatcher and you should report them to the admins.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: SafetyMoose on February 14, 2010, 09:43:17 am
If frisk is abused by an officer they should be punished for it... Getting rid of the command was the easy way out because people are to lazy to be strict and actually spend time taking action.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: =AV=Mark Visacci on February 14, 2010, 10:25:23 am
Ahh alright.. I say we start a petition of people who want /frisk back  :)

Anybody who abuses:
 1st offense = Warning
 2nd offense = Fired from SAPD
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Jcstodds on February 14, 2010, 11:08:38 am
  In the first place /frisk was a shortcut for forced RP. It was abused, yes. However one of the main reasons it was removed was because it obliterated most related RP. Cops didn't have to RP with it (and most didn't) and criminals were forced to comply with the RP regardless of their own style or intentions. If they had drugs they were forced to go to jail and hand over no matter what RP was involved; if there was any, and that was the end of it.



If frisk is abused by an officer they should be punished for it... Getting rid of the command was the easy way out because people are to lazy to be strict and actually spend time taking action.
  I will assume the people who are "too lazy to spend time taking action" are the Command Staff and admins since they are the only ones who can..
  SafetyMoose we do not operate perfect server with magic pixies watching everyone. How could everyone possibly be investigated and punished for abusing /frisk? Your argument is completely absurd! It's more to do with players being lazy and not bothering to RP than abusers being punished. 

 Why should command staff have to work overtime over a constantly misused command? Why should everyone's time be spent on abusers? Why should abusers be the priority? Asking these questions hopefully you will understand a little better the decision eventually made.

  Another problem, is that too many cops view the server as a cops and robbers server. Your in SAPD so you automatically want things easier for yourselves to catch robbers. I see many cops want more weapons, easier commands **Cough /m1** to make it easier for you to catch criminals. Only the few who are nt cops full time might realise that it is these scripts that reduce the quality and imagination used in RP. There are few less that would give the criminals the upper-hand for the sake of some decent RP.

Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: =AV=Mark Visacci on February 14, 2010, 11:55:54 am
I have an idea... Instead of having a command, like /frisk, which makes you take their stuff... Have a command that tell you if they have any illegal items (guns, drugs) on their person, and you would have to RP a search and "take" (If they comply with RP to give over) them. So there will be a required RP and no pissed off people with cops taking their stuff and leaving with no RP at all.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: StatuZ on February 14, 2010, 12:03:28 pm
I have an idea... Instead of having a command, like /frisk, which makes you take their stuff... Have a command that tell you if they have any illegal items (guns, drugs) on their person, and you would have to RP a search and "take" (If they comply with RP to give over) them. So there will be a required RP and no pissed off people with cops taking their stuff and leaving with no RP at all.

I think that they should place a zero tolerance policy on /frisk. If someone abuses it, and the suspect post proof (Such as screendumps), the person should be /friskbanned, demoted to securityguard, or completely copbanned?
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: J. Prilo on February 14, 2010, 12:27:40 pm
I must say, I enjoy the interrogation more without the /frisk command. As someone said earlier, the command was just a cheap shortcut for roleplay, and for stats. It's not about catching as much drugs as possible, it's about the roleplay. It increases the roleplay most likely the double, probably more, if you do the frisk without the command, you know.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: JDC on February 14, 2010, 13:43:06 pm
Although I do kinda miss the dark blue FBI names ( :( ), there are no problems overall, as it lets us blend in with other cops.

I am freekop again! :D
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: =AV=Mark Visacci on February 14, 2010, 13:48:42 pm
I must say, I enjoy the interrogation more without the /frisk command. As someone said earlier, the command was just a cheap shortcut for roleplay, and for stats. It's not about catching as much drugs as possible, it's about the roleplay. It increases the roleplay most likely the double, probably more, if you do the frisk without the command, you know.

Well you could RP a frisk.. then do the actual command at the end to see what you get... I mean.. I just like honest players, thats why I would like the frisk command reactivated for Officers. But yeah.. the screen dump thing is a good idea. You guys could make a script for when /frisk is used it automatically takes a screenshot, along with chatlog from past minute or so, But that could use up a lott of space pretty fast. I'll do anything it takes to get /frisk back.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: J. Prilo on February 14, 2010, 15:05:14 pm
I must say, I enjoy the interrogation more without the /frisk command. As someone said earlier, the command was just a cheap shortcut for roleplay, and for stats. It's not about catching as much drugs as possible, it's about the roleplay. It increases the roleplay most likely the double, probably more, if you do the frisk without the command, you know.

Well you could RP a frisk.. then do the actual command at the end to see what you get... I mean.. I just like honest players, thats why I would like the frisk command reactivated for Officers. But yeah.. the screen dump thing is a good idea. You guys could make a script for when /frisk is used it automatically takes a screenshot, along with chatlog from past minute or so, But that could use up a lott of space pretty fast. I'll do anything it takes to get /frisk back.

We all got different views of this case, I believe.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Lionel Valdes on February 23, 2010, 20:03:28 pm
I think this is good.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Janar on February 23, 2010, 20:11:05 pm
wat, troll?
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: ElMartu on February 23, 2010, 20:12:16 pm
wat, troll?

Now you can't bump topics without getting called a troll? :/
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Janar on February 23, 2010, 20:55:48 pm
No, just his post kinda looked like it..
Probably didn't think at all when posting it.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: J. Prilo on February 23, 2010, 22:34:03 pm
His post is far from troll'ish, Janar  :lol:
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Oliver Daniels on February 23, 2010, 23:30:01 pm
No, just his post kinda looked like it..
Probably didn't think at all when posting it.
This post is the definition of irony.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: James Bowling on March 02, 2010, 13:06:32 pm
Hey Guys Congrats, We all stopped bad girling about the loss of /frisk and the blue names after long enough. Looks like after we all got use to the rp frisking y'all started to notice what I did. Some people do give drugs over for a better rp, they may only give 20g weed out of 400 weed but we can still use that for rp. Also here is an idea Patrol weed fields and Harvest the weed before the suspect then suspect the man. I've been doing this hell i turned in 300g to Lt.Matrixbob ( 100 came from other sfpd officers helping me ) I think we all have something to be proud of.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Dutchy on March 02, 2010, 13:25:39 pm
Oh yea I forgot about it already! We want name differences back! We want /frisk back!! *moan* moan*

 j/k, you're right Jimmy, it was a temporarily moaning but... As the normal human mind is programmed, it an get used to changes and it can addept itself to it... Yea...
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Boozman on March 02, 2010, 22:25:11 pm
This is Old, This has been in affect for months now.
Stop posting here.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Alan Demarest on March 02, 2010, 22:33:11 pm
I WANT MY DARK BLUE COLOR BACK QQ  :cry:

I dont even notice anymore.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: SKenney on March 02, 2010, 22:35:24 pm
We used to be dark blue and not all the same color? :conf:
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Allison on March 03, 2010, 00:31:59 am
We used to be all the same color in RS1 too.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: GiacJr on March 03, 2010, 06:14:43 am
I would just like to put another new update that affects the ARPD - /speed can now only be used by a person sitting in the passenger seat of a car.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Mahome on March 03, 2010, 09:58:14 am
I would just like to put another new update that affects the ARPD - /speed can now only be used by a person sitting in the passenger seat of a car.
Driver would sit in passanger, suspect someone for speeding, exit car and enter driver seat to pursue  :lol:
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: James Bowling on March 03, 2010, 12:57:08 pm
If Only the passenger can see the speed then the speed cameras can not use /speed so that means that if they suspect anyone its abuse. Officers can still suspect for Reckless driving but a speed camera can not. With only the passenger seat able to /speed this helps to assure a 2 man patrol. For team work so Review.

1. Cameras can not suspect any longer.
2. Police officers will have to patrol in 2 man teams (If you want to do traffic stops)
3. Increased team work will make ARPD a family again.
4. SPEED CAMERAS GONE ( Because if they suspect without /speed that's abuse )
5. Speed cameras cant suspect for reckless driving making them inadequate so we will probably cut them from the   
budget

Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Janar on March 03, 2010, 14:44:52 pm
I have used the new speed system, I patrolled with Curtis one day. Don't know much about it, haven't been in operator/passenger role.
I would just like to put another new update that affects the ARPD - /speed can now only be used by a person sitting in the passenger seat of a car.
Driver would sit in passanger, suspect someone for speeding, exit car and enter driver seat to pursue  :lol:

Doesn't work, car must be moving, so there must be driver. Go, try to /speed in a car, alone, in passenger seat.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Chief J. Schappell on March 03, 2010, 21:37:59 pm
This is Old, This has been in affect for months now.
Stop posting here.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: SKenney on March 03, 2010, 22:02:01 pm
This is Old, This has been in affect for months now.
Stop posting here.
We've changed subjects. About the speed, I just do what I normally do. If it looks like there hauling ass, then I'll pull them over. I do not patrol with a partner.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: James Bowling on March 06, 2010, 03:26:50 am
This is Old, This has been in affect for months now.
Stop posting here.
We've changed subjects. About the speed, I just do what I normally do. If it looks like there hauling ass, then I'll pull them over. I do not patrol with a partner.

Ya but everyone hauls ass : P
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: [Rstar]Vince on March 06, 2010, 16:44:49 pm
Please keep on topic guys.. :D
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Chief J. Schappell on March 06, 2010, 17:55:53 pm
Please keep on topic guys.. :D
Agreed. This isn't off-topic or speakerbox. If you change subjects, it means find a new topic.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Mac_Cabrazi on March 11, 2010, 20:55:41 pm
this topic is still active? lol
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: Janar on March 12, 2010, 12:25:21 pm
It is open for discussion.
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: James Bowling on March 12, 2010, 20:26:07 pm
Hello,

   As all you know recently Argo had changed to 4.1 well some other things were updated. One of the things I came to report was the Gps on the bottom left side of the screen, it now has a distance at which you can not see any people and or suspects till you enter their space. I am on the fence about this change, mostly because it gives more of an Rp standard but now chases have become increasingly hard, (not to moan) but yet it helps to ensure people patrol in dark desolate areas like flint county. Not in the populated area of Flint county near the Police bars, the suspects go and stay their and hide to lose suspection because they know no cops come out in that area. This also means we will have to patrol weed fields more thoroughly, (I recommend use a helicopter).
Good Luck to all with the new changes just reporting in to see if anyone else has a take on this.

Sincerely,
Senior Officer. Jimmy Bowling
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: SafetyMoose on March 13, 2010, 03:37:00 am
Hello,

   As all you know recently Argo had changed to 4.1 well some other things were updated. One of the things I came to report was the Gps on the bottom left side of the screen, it now has a distance at which you can not see any people and or suspects till you enter their space. I am on the fence about this change, mostly because it gives more of an Rp standard but now chases have become increasingly hard, (not to moan) but yet it helps to ensure people patrol in dark desolate areas like flint county. Not in the populated area of Flint county near the Police bars, the suspects go and stay their and hide to lose suspection because they know no cops come out in that area. This also means we will have to patrol weed fields more thoroughly, (I recommend use a helicopter).
Good Luck to all with the new changes just reporting in to see if anyone else has a take on this.

Sincerely,
Senior Officer. Jimmy Bowling


The Air Support will be better used now because its actually needed to update locations ^_^. Im very happy for this change
Title: Re: CHANGES that will affect ALL ARPD
Post by: James Bowling on March 13, 2010, 04:36:05 am
Yes I'm Just on the fence it will take a long time to get people to realize that you have to actually say things in police radio. God forbid be in a helicopter and tell everyone where a small orange man is going O the Terror. Its that no one other than Hank Rafferty takes the Job seriously and really dispatches locations for other units, I'm starting to think that some officers look at the Tab map and find a suspect and do { /area 23 } and spam that till they are close. It's a great idea for the gps I just don't know if enough people are ready to ACTUALLY presue suspects.
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